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Q: John Lennon and Paul McCartney , |
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What do you think is the one single thing |
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that most contributed to your phenomenal, |
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unprecedented success in the past 8 or 9 years? Any single thing?" |
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JOHN: "Umm, God?" |
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PAUL: "I'll go along with that." |
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Q: "So much has been said that you started a trend, |
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and that the trend that exists today - |
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this whole psychedelic mixed-media world..." PAUL & JOHN: (laugh) |
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Q: "...kind of goes back to the early days |
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when you embarked on that, some have said, rock-strewn path." |
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JOHN: "We're just part of it, whatever it is." |
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PAUL: "We didn't set that one. We're just rolling along with it." |
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JOHN: "But we're part of it, you know." |
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Q: "But you were so much ahead, though, as so many have said." |
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JOHN: "To a degree. There's always somebody a bit ahead." |
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Q: "What led you down that road in the first place? |
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What brought you into that medium?" |
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PAUL: "Progress. Just natural progress as things change. |
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You know, they just keep changing. You can't help it. |
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And we just (laughs) kept along with them as they kept changing... |
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And here we are!" |
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Q: "The millions of young people that now are grown up, |
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I suppose, had started out with you a few years ago. |
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They've been affected, it's said, by what you've done, |
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deeply and permanently. |
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Do you think this is true?" |
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JOHN: "Yeah, in some cases that will be true." |
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PAUL: "Yeah, and it goes for us, too. |
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We've been affected by them." |
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JOHN: "I tell ya, I'm permanently affected by Elvis Presley... |
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Permanently affected by whoever it is you're affected by." |
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PAUL: (jokingly) "...scars to prove it." |
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Q: "Going back again to the early 1960's |
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when you first achieved your outstanding success. |
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Things were very different in the world then - |
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the world of popular music and the world of youth, |
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weren't they, than they are today." |
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JOHN: "It's gonna be... It's just change, you know. |
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Everything changes. |
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EVERYTHING was different then, |
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so there's no sort of specifics about it. |
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The whole thing's continually changing. |
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So we can't really comment on why one particular man |
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had better white trousers on in 1933. |
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There's nothing to say about it, but it happened." |
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PAUL: (jokingly to John) "Wrap up adlib! Close to script!" |
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Q: "Yeah, we should go back to 'copy' now." (laughter) |
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Q: "But changes that did occur in those years... |
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How would you describe the kind of change? |
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Was it the waking of a sleeping giant? |
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We talk about young people, |
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and we talk about the fact that so much has awakened |
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on the scene of life for young people." |
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PAUL: "You know I mean, none of us know what it is. |
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I don't think anyone knows what it is. |
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And it's just... it's life, you know. |
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You appear to grow up, |
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and we started off in leather jackets chinging away on guitars. |
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And it went through a lot of phases until it got here. |
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You know, and that's all we can say about it. |
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I don't know what happened. (laughs) |
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You can't say exactly what went on." JOHN: "How can you say?" |
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Q: "Do you think that seven, eight, nine, ten years ago, |
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that young people were less awake?" |
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JOHN: "I think they're becoming more aware each generation. |
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I don't know whether it'll end at some point |
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and go back to the start. |
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But it seems to be going that way - more aware." |
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Q: "More new experiences all the time?" |
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JOHN: "Well of course." |
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PAUL: "More aware, but no one's quite sure |
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what it is that they're aware of. |
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But they're aware of it (laughing) whatever it is. |
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(pause) You know, it's one of those things |
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you can't talk about because it gets into things |
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you can't put your finger on. |
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(to himself) Wrap up adlib. Close to script." |
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Q: "A lot of older people seem to feel that the young people today, |
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as I suppose older people always felt, |
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are always rebelling against the older generation. |
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But that this rebellion has gone so much further than other rebellions." |
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JOHN: "Yes." PAUL: "Yeah." |
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JOHN: "What will the next one be like, you know." |
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Q: "They'll rebell against you." |
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JOHN: "Depending on what we turn into." |
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Q: "What are you going to turn into?" |
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JOHN: "Well, if we stay like we are now it mightn't be bad. |
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But we should progress and be able to still communicate with kids |
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if this change is as important as it might be. |
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But if it isn't, it's just the same again. (comically, to the announcer) What's yours?" |
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Q: "That's a good question. (pause) |
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But as you leave the 20's... How soon will that be for both of you?" |
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JOHN: "I'm 27." |
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PAUL: "25." |
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Q: "You still have a ways to go, |
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but you talk about yourselves as gray old men in a sense, |
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compared to those years ago." |
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JOHN: (giggles) "It's only the way you're hearing it."(laughter) |
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Q: "You've made so much money |
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and you've achieved so much success so early. |
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Does this worry you?" |
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JOHN: "It's not a worry, it's just... |
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It saved us wasting our lives achieving it." |
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PAUL: "Yeah. Our thing just happens to be |
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very condensed and speeded. It's speeded up..." |
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JOHN: "We chose a modern form of success." |
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PAUL: "...very quick, because one second we were just there |
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doing 'that' with 'that much' money. |
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The next second... people normally take a lifetime to do... |
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it was just all there suddenly, just handed. |
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And we didn't have to do anything for it." |
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JOHN: "Except for work, you know." |
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PAUL: "We had to work and do songs and make records, |
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and that, but it didn't feel like anything to us. |
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And so, that's incredible, that. |
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'Cuz it makes you think. (laughs) |
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It also makes you rich." |
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JOHN: "It's a way of doing it. |
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There's lots of careers to choose. |
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And you choose one... |
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Everybody wants to get something, |
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or make something one way or another. |
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And we chose a modern way of making it...and the so-called(?) relative making it,money and cars |
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because obviously we didn't want to spend out lives to get to nowhere." |
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PAUL: "It's like, if you could take a pill to just get famous and rich, |
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a lot of people would. And ours was a bit like that." |
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Q: "Was this what you really wanted to do it for |
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... you wanted to get rich?" PAUL & JOHN: "Yeah." |
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JOHN: "You just want to 'make it' whatever you do. |
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You all set out leaving school or whatever, and you want to make it. |
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So you choose your field, and you make it or you don't. |
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But MAKE IT, that isn't it because there's nothing to MAKE. |
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So we were in the position to find out it's not worth spending your life looking... trying to get cars and kid gloves." |
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Q: "Has the fun gone out of your musical career |
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now that you've made so much money?" PAUL & JOHN: "No." JOHN: "Nothing like that." |
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PAUL: "You see, you're asking questions which are quite serious... |
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and you're not asking us, uhh you know, |
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where we get our hair cut. |
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You can't expect all these sort of happy answers |
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when you're asking serious questions." JOHN: "You want the answers. |
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Well, we're giving you the answer, you know." PAUL: "As we see it." |
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PAUL: (jokingly) "It isn't very clearly..." |
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Q: "Of course it's unclear...Now that you have this tremendous influence, |
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which you obviously have all over the world, |
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do you have a particular feeling about what you want to do with this power?" |
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JOHN: "Just, whatever it is, to try and channel it for GOOD... |
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if we can, you know. |
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That's the only point of doing anything. |
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So we've got this machine, |
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and we'll try and make use of it, for good, |
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and not just to have a machine." |
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PAUL: "You know, you've got your life and you're faced with choices in it. |
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And for us being suddenly rich and famous, |
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and in a position to do something, |
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we've got a choice of doing either what most people do, |
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which is just making more and more money, |
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and getting more and more rich and famous... |
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or trying to DO something which will help. |
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And it sounds a bit like charity, but it's obviously the one we've chosen 'cuz it's just better. |
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And it just might be in the long run..." |
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JOHN: "Might be good." |
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PAUL: "Might be good." |
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Q: "Let's stick with the young people and the areas that you think are most fruitful to try to help in. |
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I asked before, where you thought young people were going, |
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and you said well maybe there'll be a reaction to what they have now. |
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How does this relate to the real world as you see it... |
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to issues of war and peace, family and country? |
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JOHN: "All issues are relative. So it relates like that. |
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It's all just relative to each other. |
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War (pause) and vegetables. |
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'Cuz there's relativity and absolute. |
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And that's how it relates, you know." |
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PAUL: (chuckles) "Great, Johnny." |
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Q: "It's kind of hard though for some people to interpret you." |
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JOHN: "Well, if they can't interpret it, maybe they will later... |
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or come to their own conclusions. |
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But that's the way I think it is." |
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PAUL: (to John) "But what do you think about the young people?" |
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JOHN: "Well... I think they're young, you know, |
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and trying to find out. That's all." |
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PAUL: "They seem to be trying to stop wars, and that. " |
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JOHN: "...which is beautiful." |
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PAUL: "It just looks as though everyone is trying to stop all that killing, and all that fighting." |
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JOHN: "It's a good idea." |
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PAUL: "It sounds good. It may be just silly to try, but it may be good!" |
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Q: "It may not work." PAUL AND JOHN: (quiet chuckle) |
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Q: "The word 'anarchy' has been used to describe some of the..." |
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JONH: "Well I mean, there always will be that element because, |
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when they see it as how they see it to become an anarchist, |
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it's 'What can we do about all that?' |
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I mean, what can you do really but wear a badge or stand up and shout. |
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So the choice is about shouting or 'let it roll.' |
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But they're a group of people who will go on forever, |
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but they don't actually do anything." |
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PAUL: "Everyone needs someone to say 'This is how you do it. |
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This is what we want you to do,' you know. |
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The thing is, it would be great if we knew how you do it. |
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We make guesses, but they're not always right. |
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They're often wrong, in fact. |
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It'd be great if we knew what it is you do |
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Cuz we are in a good position, |
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just to say to all the people who want to know how you do it. |
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Cuz there are so many phony institusions saying |
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'And this is how you do it!' |
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Nobody can believe them anymore. |
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So it would be nice for people, |
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for someone to just come along and say..." |
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JOHN: "Well, it would have to be Jesus, or Buddha or something." |
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PAUL: "Yeah." |
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JOHN: "But they don't seem to be around at the moment." |
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Q: "The whole idea of whether you get involved or whether you stay out of it - Whether you're turned on or turned off. |
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How do you feel about that?" |
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JOHN: "We believe you should turn on and stay in. |
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Change it, you know." |
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PAUL: (jokingly) "Drop in... sometime." |
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Q: "When you get involved, do you mean getting involved in the establishment and institutions?" |
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JOHN: "Well, to change it... |
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because unless you change it, it's going to be there forever. |
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So the only thing to do is to try and change it... |
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but not replace it with another set of Harris Tweed suits. |
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And just change it completely. |
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But how you do that, we don't know." |
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PAUL: "There's a lot of ways, |
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but the one we've decided on at the moment |
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is just to try and get into a business, |
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so that we can go to 'them,' you know, |
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all those big bosses in all those big companies, |
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and talk to them as though we're..." (laughs) |
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PAUL & JOHN: "...one of them!" |
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JOHN: "Of course we're not, so we'll see what happens." |
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PAUL: "We're not really, |
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but we've got people who are doing it for us. |
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And it's a bit different from the hippie scene because people think |
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"Oh, they haven't washed and they've got long hair. |
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Oh that's naughty,' you know. |
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And people don't communicate with them |
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because they don't like the look of them, or something." |
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JOHN: "We're gonna package peace in a new box." |
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PAUL: "We're trying to get to, like, |
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the people who are sort of in control, and say you know, |
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'Come on. Straighten it out. Don't mess it up.'" (JOHN:??) |
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Ask if they can(??). It doesn't look as if they can. |
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Q: "You went to India and spent time with Maharishi |
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who has had great impact, you feel, on your whole outlook. |
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Could you decribe how he's changed things for you?" |
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JOHN: "We sort of feel that Maharishi for us was a mistake, really. |
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Meditation we don't think was a mistake. |
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But I think we had a false impression of Maharishi, |
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like people do of us, you know. |
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But what we do happens in public, so it's a different scene slightly." |
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Q: "What was your original impression?" |
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JOHN: "We thought he was something other than he was." |
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PAUL: "We thought he was magic, you know, |
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because he's got that kind of thing. |
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And he sort of, I dont know, the twinkle in the eye. |
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And you just think he..." |
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JOHN: "We were looking for it, |
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and probably superimposed it on him." |
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PAUL: "Yeah, it was just the right time anyway. |
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There were we, waiting for someone... |
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JOHN: "Waiting for a guru. He came.". PAUL:"...the great magic man to come. |
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And he came, you know. There he was and he was talking about it all. |
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And he had great answers, |
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'cuz he said 'You can sort yourself out,' |
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that you can calm yourself down just |
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by doing this very simple thing. |
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And it works, that bit of it. It really does do it, you know." |
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JOHN: "But the other bit - He's giving out recipes for something, |
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then he's still creating the same kind of situations |
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which he's giving out recipes to cure." |
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PAUL: "But it seems like the system is more important... |
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Q: "Sort of a touch of establishment in the Maharishi?" |
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JOHN: "Something, you know. We can't...." |
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PAUL: "He's okay, but the system is more important, y'know... |
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(JOHN: Something taking over something)...the idea of it. |
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(JOHN: Some seems to ???) It always goes by the Budhha(?) bit. |
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If people watch Maharishi, or watch us, |
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they don't think about the system - |
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don't think about what it's about, you know. " |
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Q: "He got you to stop taking drugs." |
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JOHN: "No he didn't. |
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We'd stopped taking drugs a couple of months before,when we met him. |
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And that was just sort of... |
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The newspapers said, 'Oh! Put it together, we got a title.' |
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But it's just not true." |
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Q: "You feel that drugs are not necessary anymore for what you do?" |
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JOHN: "Uhh, I don't know. |
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I'm not making any statements about what I'm going to do for the next 60 years or whatever it is, because I've no idea anymore. |
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You can never really know, but just have a vague goal." |
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PAUL: "Not at the moment, anyway." |
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JOHN: "It's no use saying 'I will never take drugs' |
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or 'I WILL take drugs,' because you don't know." |
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Q: "After the experiences that you've had, |
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do you think that young people who are your fans, |
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who idolize you, ought to try the same thing?" |
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JOHN: "No. We don't give instructions on how to live your life. |
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The only thing we can do, because we're in the public eye, |
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is to reflect what we do. |
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And they can judge for themselves what happens to us - |
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with Maharishi, with drugs, with whatever we go on. |
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If they're using us as a guideline. |
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And we can only try and do what's right for us, |
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and therefore, we hope right for them." |
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PAUL: "Some fella said to me, |
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'Have you had LSD, Paul?' |
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And I said 'Yes.' And it was only 'cuz |
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I was going to just be honest with him. |
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There's no other reason. |
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I didn't want to spread it or anything, you know. |
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I'm not trying to do anything except answer his question. |
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But he happened to be a reporter, |
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and I happened to be a Beatle. |
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So it went into that, you know." |
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JOHN: "And it was his responsibility, |
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or his paper's responsibility and his TV station." |
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PAUL: "That's the thing - He immediately said 'Oh, it's this man's responsibility. He's just saying all the kids should take LSD.' |
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And I didn't, you know. I just said, |
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'Yes I've taken it. Okay I own up,' you know." |
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Q: "Do you think the press distorts a great deal of what you say?"PAUL & JOHN: Yes!" |
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JOHN: "I don't think there's anywhere, |
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any truth coming over about what's happening at all."(laughter) |
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Q: "Generally, all the way across the board?" |
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JOHN: "There is no truth coming out, at all.(PAUL: It's not ???) |
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The only true thing about newspapers is the name of the newpaper.(PAUL: I mean newspapers...) |
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And I'm not saying that they are intentionally evil or anything, |
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it's just they can't control it. |
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And the system won't allow truth to come out." PAUL: "Yeah." |
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JOHN: "So there's something wrong with the system." |
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PAUL: "You know I mean, this - |
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It's a pretty sort of ordinary interview. |
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It's pretty dull, you know. |
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Except for one or two little things, which will have been headlines..." |
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Q: "Of course, when someone watches television, they see it." (PAUL: ...and that's what the newspapers use to take them...???) |
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JOHN: "Television is a bit better, |
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but it's still under the influence of the system |
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that doesn't really allow truth to come out." |
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Q: "Well, now you're saying what you think and people are seeing what you say." |
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JOHN: "Just for this moment, maybe. |
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If we are saying the truth as we know it. |
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but in general, I mean... |
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Are you saying that the truth is coming out all the time? |
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I don't know. You think so? You try, yeah, (PAUL: No, it's probably not, I mean....) |
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you try but you've still got a system which restricts and inhibits people speaking their mind. |
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I mean, we can speak our mind now about these subjects. |
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But there will be limits imposed. And Rules." PAUL: "Mmmm." |
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JOHN: "...which are to safeguard something or other. |
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But safeguarding it prevents... it has a side effect. |
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And the choice is, where to draw the line." |
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PAUL: "It's like, if you were to ask either of us a question that the answer would be obscene..." |
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JOHN: "There's a censor." |
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PAUL: "There's a limit, you know, to where you could go." |
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JOHN: "We couldn't describe making love to somebody, |
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because the system doesn't allow that.(PAUL: But anyway that's still not to do without truth. They...) |
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You couldn't just describe it. That's where the system's at." |
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Q: "One of the big controversies in your country had been recently |
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the whole question of racial integration and of cutting off immigration, |
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and of asking some of your non-whites to go back home again. |
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You've been asked about this, undoubtedly." JOHN: "No." |
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Q: 'Do you think this is the kind of government policy that you want in your country?" |
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JOHN: "We sow what we reap, or whatever it is. (PAUL: Mmm) |
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And Britain is paying for what it did to all those countries. |
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And to say, 'Keep out,' is just barking in the garden, you know. |
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Because whatever is going to happen will happen like that." |
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PAUL: "It was just some fella who said in a speech one day..." |
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JOHN: "He said what a lot of them thought." (PAUL: He??? a few votes and y'know ??) |
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Q: "And a lot of people in Liverpool, and other places you know well, favor what he said, apparantly." |
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JOHN: "Sure." PAUL: "Yeah." |
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JOHN: "Because those people are all over the place. |
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That's why the governments are in power."( PAUL: "You know those people, they don't know a thing. They just hate.") |
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JOHN: "Because they're not told anything, as well." |
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PAUL: "It's people like this - They say "I'm white and he's black.' |
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Hate, hate, hate. They just hate him." |
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JOHN: "And he's not brought up any other way." |
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PAUL: "You know, they don't know anything else than that, |
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so they've got to agree with this fella who says |
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"We've got a dangerous situation here.'" |
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JOHN: "And they vote him in, and he just makes them feel alright. |
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And he tells them that 'You're right! You know what's happening. |
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You put me in power' |
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But what they don't know is that he knows a bit more what's going on. |
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That's why he's in power. |
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But he's not going to tell them what's happening because he wants to stay in power. |
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Because if they knew, they wouldn't have put him in power, somebody else would be." |
| [20:06.782] |
PAUL: "But it's not as bad in England as it is here." |
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JOHN: "It probably is, but it's just a different..." |
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PAUL: "I don't think it is." |
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Q: "You're talking about racism?" |
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JOHN: "Well, it will be then." |
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PAUL: "I don't think it's as bad, just from what I've seen. |
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It might be. 'Cuz it's hidden more in England, definitely, you know." |
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JOHN: "That might be worse." |
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PAUL: "That might be worse, yeah. |
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But there's just not the numbers going on." |
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JOHN: "Well, it's just that. England is THAT big, |
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and America is THAT big." |
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PAUL: (giggles, jokingly) "It's much worse in England, you know!" (laughter) |
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Q: ???...Tell us about it. JOHN: (giggling)...terrible things... Oh no, he was joking then. Q: (laughing) "Really?!" JOHN: "He came 'round the circle." |
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Q: "This business of color, and young people, and people who follow you... This doesn't have any significance in the mind of many of your young people?" |
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PAUL: "No, it's good. Most people don't... |
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It seems to be older people who really have got hang-ups." |
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JOHN: "Yes, and musicians and their vibrations don't usually have this about what street you live on. |
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I mean, they get that scene sorted out as soon as they meet other musicians. Because it's the music that counts. |
| [21:21.496] |
There's no common denominator for society like music or whatever they're going for." |
| [21:26.884] |
PAUL: "If someone can play guitar, it doesn't matter what colored hands he uses." |
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JOHN: "But it also doesn't matter for the carpenter and the bricklayer, and all that." |
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PAUL: "But I mean, everyone knows that anyway. There's only a few... I don't know who these people are who..." |
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JOHN: (giggling) "They're the ones who vote for those people." |
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PAUL: (giggles) "You know, there's just some funny people around who're messing it up." |
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JOHN: "Lots of them." |
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PAUL: "Let's find those people." |
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Q: "Of course, there's people who don't like the long hair..." |
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JOHN: "Well, we know those people are SICK! |
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And we might all be sick. |
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But their manifestations of sickness are pretty horrible, really. Frightening." |
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PAUL: "There was some thing in England where a kid went to the barbers and his Uncle said 'Go and get your hair cut.' |
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And so he went and he just had a little bit off, |
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'cuz he had it quite long and he liked it. |
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And he came back with just a bit off |
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- So his Uncle, his guardian, |
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got annoyed and dragged him back and had it all off. |
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The kid just come with a little crewcut, |
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and he was really broken up about it. |
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And the next morning they found him on the railway lines. |
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The kid has just sort of laid down with his crewcut. |
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*chop* You know, there's no need for that." |
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JOHN: "To make haircuts that important is insanity." |
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Q: "Some people probably say to you, |
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'Why don't you cut your hair short? |
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Are you just wearing it that way to be different?'" |
| [22:48.394] |
PAUL: "No it's just, 'Why don't you wear yours long,' you know." |
| [22:51.870] |
JOHN: "We know what we like in that respect. |
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We please ourselves. |
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And what's it got to do with (pause) some man with one eye." (laughter) PAULL: It is not... there's no...(giggling) |
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JOHN: (giggling) "You know that man with one eye that's always sitting 'round the back!" (laughter) |
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JOHN: "...and asking ya why your hair is long!" Q: Yeah... But he's always there... |
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PAUL: (laughs) "Yeah, but all those things about hair and color... You know, |
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all those things that hang people up. |
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There's no need, 'cuz there's no worry. |
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I mean, those are the least worrying things around." |
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JOHN: "But they're the causes, aren't they!( PAUL: Yeah, they seem to be...)One of the ?? causes. Dittle dittle rum bumble bumble(?)" |
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Q: "What about the Queen and royalty in Britain? Is that a hang up?" |
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JOHN: "It's not a hang up, but I mean |
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- Imagine being brought up like that for two-thousand years. |
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You must be pretty freaky. |
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And they must have a hard time trying to be human beings. |
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I don't know if any of them will ever make it, |
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'cuz I don't know much about them. |
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But, you feel sorry for people like that. |
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'Cuz it's like us, only worse! |
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And whether they know what's going on or not is another subject." |
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PAUL: "They've probably got their own thing, you know, inside the castle." |
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JOHN: Mmm... Chest(?). Paul: (Giggling) No they are just... |
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Q: Well, you've been inside the castle ??? the decorations... (PAUL: No ,I mean....) |
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JOHN: "That is a very strange life, isn't it. |
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I mean, that's another manifestation of craziness." |
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PAUL: "You don't really TALK to her 'cuz she's the Queen. |
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It's like you don't really TALK to President Johnson ever. |
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You just sort of shake hands and APPEAR to talk to him." |
| [24:19.149] |
JOHN: "And if they BELIEVE that they're royal, that's the joke. |
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You know, if they believe it..." |
| [24:23.899] |
PAUL: "It's crazy." |
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JOHN: "...well they can carry on, you know. |
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Because it's just very strange to think that you are royal." |
| [24:30.199] |
PAUL: "They're probably just great and human and have just got their own scene going, you know." |
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JOHN: "One or two of them, maybe... (giggles) over five-million." |
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PAUL: "And it's just a very difficult job." |
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Q: "Do you think it all should end?" |
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JOHN: "Well, I dont know about that. But it's very costly." PAUL: (laughs) |
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JOHN: "It's priorities really, isn't it." |
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Q: "It's been said that you have such a tremendous amount of influence. |
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You said yourself in that very controversial remark one time that you were more popular than Jesus, |
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and you had to correct the interpretation of that." JOHN: "Yeah." |
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PAUL: "'The Queen is freaky' isn't a bad one." |
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Q: "Yeah, that's not too bad, either. ??? never had bigger crowds(?) as you did |
| [25:04.631] |
PAUL: (jokingly) "Another headline taken out of context yet again!" |
| [25:10.060] |
Q: "The United States has been plagued by the war in Vietnam, |
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and the world has been concerned about it. |
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What are your views about the war?" |
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JOHN: "It's another piece of insanity. |
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It's all part of the same insane scene that's going on. |
| [25:25.363] |
It's just insane. It shouldn't be going on. There's nothing else for it... no reason, just insanity." |
| [25:32.873] |
PAUL: "You know, whoever's right and whoever's wrong, |
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it's still... the thing that's going on there isn't a good thing. It's only that much willed(?). |
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A few bits of it does rough things going on. |
| [25:48.824] |
A few bits does worse things and a few bits is just insane. And that's one of those bits. |
| [25:55.625] |
Q: "Since you're not diplomats, let me ask you to meddle in American politics as our concluding question. |
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We have a lot of candidates..."PAUL & JOHN: "We don't know much about it." |
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Q: "You know the names..." JOHN: "No." |
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Q: "You've heard the names..." |
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JOHN: "Not really."PAUL: (jokingly) Eisenhower?"Q: (laughs) JOHN: "We hear the sort of Kennedy, |
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and we met a man called Green who sells plastic flowers to try and get people to vote for him, |
| [26:16.285] |
which is a good sign of what he is, anyway. |
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But we don't know much others." |
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PAUL: (peace symbols) "Doves." JOHN: "Doves and olives."(laughter) |
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JOHN: "Anything about that, my choice would be a dove. |
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But I mean, it might be an insane dove. |
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That's the risk you gotta take." |
| [26:29.808] |
Q: "You're not ready to make a commitment?" |
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PAUL: "Yeah sure. Go on, ask some." |
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Q: "Would you pick a McCarthy, or a Kennedy?"JOHN: "A dove." |
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Q: "Humphrey, Nixon or Rockefeller?" JOHN: "A dove." |
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PAUL: "Yeah. You know, it's just too hard 'cuz we don't know what they are, those people. |
| [26:50.260] |
We see all their pictures in the paper, |
| [26:52.546] |
but we don't know really what they're doing. Do you?" |
| [26:55.547] |
Q: "What about Harold Wilson?" (Merseyside member of Parliament and then-current Prime Minister) |
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JOHN: "Yes! What's HE doing?!"(laughter) |
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JOHN: "I mean, what are they all doing? That's the point." |
| [27:03.423] |
Q: "Let me just ask this one final question. |
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What do you do when you talk about the establishment, |
| [27:09.922] |
and you try to put something in it's place... when you're not satisfied with..." |
| [27:13.848] |
JOHN: "We're all part of it as well. |
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I mean, the establishment is abstract and all that bit. |
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We're all part of it. |
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So it's just to change it anyway you can, if you think you can. |
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That's all you can do." |
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Q: "Gentlemen, Thank you very much." |
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JOHN: "Pleasure."PAUL: "Thank you." |
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Q: John Lennon and Paul McCartney. |
